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Play video embedded in PowerPoint and mix multiple computers and cameras to a GoToWebinar -
Have you ever wanted to play a video embedded in a PowerPoint file through GoToWebinar but can't because the audience sees a jumpy video with a low frame rate? Or you want to show off a computer p...
11 Feb Second Update - The desktop apps for GTT and GTM won't work with the ATEM unless you can find an "IT Professional" who can whitelist certain ports in Windows 10 systems to allow them to receive video for GTT and GTM. In other words, unless you want to screw with your registry files in hopes of making GTT or GTM work, you might want to investigate other web conference providers that just treat the ATEM Mini like a webcam. (It looks like Chris was using a Mac, so it looks like Macs don't have this problem)
11 Feb Update - this post was marked as an answer too soon. Got the ATEM Mini, and it works with everything EXCEPT GoToTraining and GoToMeeting. Support is telling me that the ATEM is "too professional" for GoToTraining and it only supports simple webcams. Still trying to make it work, but not looking good. This could be a deal breaker for GTT going forward.
ORIGINAL POST:
Thank you - this is really helpful. I ordered an ATEM Mini earlier this week and am eagerly awaiting its arrival. This device will do a lot to make my GoToTraining sessions a lot more professional. I've been frustrated a long time by the inability to zoom smoothly and control the focus of webcams, and now I can use a real camera to capture my video.
Back to the original point in this discussion.
We have found that the ATEM Mini works with Macintosh computers and GoToMeeting and GoToWebinar, but does not work with GoTo programs if you have a Windows computer.
When using with a Mac, the image coming into the GoTo is cropped (the edges are cut off). I played around with this by running PowerPoint on computer 1 and sending that image through the ATEM Mini to a second computer that was running/presenting the GoToWebinar.
I was using the standard 4:3 ratio in PowerPoint, which gives you a 10" wide by 7.5" tall slide. I found that if I embed a video in the PowerPoint slide, I had to size it to be 9" wide. This meant 1/2 inch unused space to the right and left of the video image. Despite the slide being 10" wide, GoTo crops the image and broadcasts only 9" wide. The GoTo Attendees see this 9" wide as full width of the GoTo viewer.
Thus if you do set up a GoTo where PowerPoint and video from the first computer goes through the ATEM Mini to the second/Presentation computer, fooling GoTo to think this is a webcam, you have to include a half-inch border around the material on the slides.
This is not as apparent when you are really showing your webcam rather than using this trick to use an external source as your GoTo webcam. When showing your webcam, most folks would not notice that that the entire webcam image is not really shown.
This is only true for GoTo. For some reason they crop the edges of the webcam input. Other programs that use a webcam don't seem to do this. The ATEM community has tried the ATEM Mini with other computer programs, and have found that only GoTo crops the image.
Rather than redoing all of my slides on the first computer to allow an unused 1/2" border, I still run my regular PowerPoint on my main computer that is Presenting the GoToWebinar. I am also showing the "webcam," which is really showing a black slide from the first computer.
When I get to the point in my slide show when I need to show the video, I press the Stop Sharing Screen button, change my audio input to Blackmagic (the name that GoTo sees for the ATEM Mini) and I advance to the next slide on the other computer. At this point, the output from the ATEM Mini is now full screen on the Attendee's computer. I have already set up that PowerPoint file to be a black slide, then the next slide is also black but with a 9" wide video that plays automatically when I get to that slide.
When the video is over, on the Presenter computer I click to share my screen and change the audio back to my microphone. I find I can do this faster than I can get one of the cloud videos to play. This also eliminates the limit of five videos per webinar.
I could make this even easier and connect my microphone to the ATEM Mini ,and then I would only have to Stop Sharing my Screen when I want to show the video. I could then use the Mute button on the ATEM Mini to control my microphone rather than the Mute button in GoTo.
Hopefully GoTo will look into this and figure out why the ATEM Mini works with all other programs but does strange things with GoTo. Cropping the webcam input is something that needs a defeat button.
Chris
A lot of us don't have 'video production company-like' knowledge and skills like you do or the financial resources to go down the route you took. Guess I'm forced to wait and see if LogMeIn will ever respond to my PPT embedded video fix request. Still no word from LogMeIn....not looking good. Stay healthy.
gmacnv
Hi
We have an account manage in logmein, and I contacted them about this issue
This is their reply
"I asked to our technicians and they told me:
- Seems the Atem Mini Pro from Balckmagic is looking for a video 1080p signal from the webcam, but G2M/W is only providing a 640x480 signal, at best. The issue of having a higher resolution for G2M/W/T is not a new issue, and there's been road map slides about up'ing the resolution."
The ATEM Mini works well for me, so I don't understand them saying it is a resolution issue.
The only two issues I have are the cropping on the visual image, and the downward expander on the audio.
To get around these I can size the video in a PowerPoint slide to place the video within the cropping mask that GoTo uses. But that takes time.
Second - You can't play music, and any speaking must be "mastered," since the downward expander employed by GoTo reduces the volume of sounds below a certain level. GoTo should give us a switch to turn off the background noise reducer, which would make music possible.
Without music, life would be a mistake. -- Nietzsche
